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- Wednesday, January 30th, 2008
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- <rude> Ryan: cool dream. In the dream I had last night, a Verizon guy stuck his head through my window and told me to stop downloading movies.
<RevFry> Wow.. that's an aggressive anti-piracy campaign
<rude> I think he was more concerned about my bandwidth usage
<rude> so maybe it was an anti-net neutrality campaign -
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- Posted by vito
- Saturday, December 29th, 2007
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- <qumbler> Found: http://interconnected.org/home/2007/12/28/wrapping_up_2007
<vito> scroll down to #4 in that
<vito> that's the refactoring one
<bai> "A codebase should be its own source repository: seeing what the code was like a year ago shouldn't be a check-out from source control, but archeology."
<bai> that's preposterous
<luser> wha
<luser> stupid
<bai> haha the rest of the explanation says "my brain can't understand elegant solutions so it's better to mash together a series of hacks"
<vito> I think it's a fascinating idea. That's how you get serendipity and side-effects and emergent behavior.
<bai> this guy is not an architect-type coder, he's a grunt-work, fill-in-the-blanks coder
<bai> hahah emergent behavior is not a good thing in software development
<bai> it's generally called "bugs"
<vito> I think the problem is that *you* are a grunt work coder, and he's gone all astronaut architect and you just can't comprehend his vision.
<bai> no, there's a reason he referred to it as archaeology, and that's because he's digging himself a big hole
<bai> "Refactoring code means we say there are certain behaviours that are important, which are those to be kept, and other there aren't. I say, who are we to say what's important."
<bai> we are the programmers who define what the system we're working on should and shouldn't do, it's exactly our jobs to say what is and isn't important
<luser> yeah
<luser> it's not like this is just some magical stuff that we've discovered
<luser> it's fucking code
<luser> it was written by other programmers
<luser> it's either right or wrong
<bai> hey, don't fix that bug, it might turn out to do something awesome 3 years from now!
<bai> bug fixing = abortion
<luser> well too bad you didn't use a vcs and save the old version
<luser> that's just archaeology
<bai> nothing beats digging around in some code and coming up with a piece of code that makes you go "what the FUCK does THIS do?"
<vito> I think the idea is that it'd be better to treat existing code as a black box, working solely on inputs and outputs
<luser> it's absurd
<luser> it doesn't work that way
<drlanning> There have always been ghosts in the machine. Random segments of code, that have grouped together to form unexpected protocols. Unanticipated, these free radicals engender questions of free will, creativity, and even the nature of what we might call the soul.
<drlanning> Why is it that when some robots are left in darkness, they will seek out the light? Why is it that when robots are stored in an empty space, they will group together, rather than stand alone?
<drlanning> How do we explain this behavior? Random segments of code? Or is it something more? When does a perceptual schematic become consciousness? When does a difference engine become the search for truth?
<drlanning> When does a personality simulation become the bitter mote... of a soul? -
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- Posted by vito
- Thursday, December 13th, 2007
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- Tuxedo Rentals - Rent Formal Wear - Style 17: Marc Ecko Black 6-button Duster - Al's For
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HTML page- http://www.alsformalwear.com/shopexd.asp?id=17
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“<vito> that is not what I'm wearing to the company holiday party, but it was totally awesome in the store
<luser> you're not wearing it cause it'd drag on the ground
<luser> also it's fucking marc ecko
<luser> HAY GUISE OUR PROM IS IN THE MATRIX LOL”
- Monday, November 26th, 2007
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- <vito> "I can't figure out this whole timestamp thing. I can't figure out the date format."
<vito> "I don't understand how dates work."
<vito> Telling you guys things I hear devs say isn't violating NDA, right?
<bai> well we're hardly planning on stealing your company's inherited stupidity and using it for our own personal gains -
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- Posted by vito
- Wednesday, November 21st, 2007
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- <vito> were all the bloggers down on the ipod when it first came out?
<vito> or did we not have blogs back then
<vito> I remember Slashdot being down on it
<luser> don't recall, you're right about slashdot being down on it
<luser> "iPoop... iCry. I was so hoping for something more."
<luser> "Great just what the world needs, another freaking MP3 player. Go Steve! Where's the Newton?!"
<vito> BusinessWeek called the Kindle the iPod of books and I think everyone's forgetting that the original iPod was kinda assy, and the current rev, several years later, is orgasmic or whatever. I think the Kindle is the first-gen iPod of ebooks. It'll jumpstart the market just like the original iPod did.
<vito> Everyone's comparing iPod of books to the current rev, which is dumb.
<luser> "hey - heres an idea Apple - rather than enter the world of gimmicks and toys, why dont you spend a little more time sorting out your pathetically expensive and crap server line up? or are you really aiming to become a glorified consumer gimmicks firm?"
<vito> haha
<luser> way to be prescient, albeit completely wrong
<luser> "$400 for an Mp3 Player! I'd call it the Cube 2.0 as it wont sell, and be killed off in a short time...and it's not really functional."
<luser> "No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame."
<luser> One of the "Top Five Worst Tech Gifts to get for Christmas in 2001" - TechTarget
<vito> the original ipod?
<luser> apparently
<vito> that's classic
<luser> so yeah, i think you're right
<luser> people forget that it took some time for the ipod to take off
<luser> they didn't break 5M units sold in a quarter till like 4 years later
<luser> yeah
<luser> ok, like 3 years i guess
<luser> first data point is Q1 2002
<luser> but they don't break 10M total sales till Q1 2005
<luser> then they sell like 80 million in the next 2 years
<luser> also i don't know that kindle will necessarily be the next ipod
<luser> but it's certainly too early to write it off based on the first model
<luser> especially since i'm sure amazon has lots of money to continue development
<vito> well, I think the whole sony reader is a portable book, kindle is a portable bookstore thing is important. I don't think Sony is going to make an ebook walkman, and you've got Apple with the wifi music store now. -
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- Posted by vito
- Monday, September 24th, 2007
- Post 33829
- Tuesday, September 18th, 2007
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- <luser__> i'm going back to the hotel now
<luser__> so ronery here
<rude> luser: theres a good bar on yonge street called Zanzibar, you should go there
<luser__> 0.8km away from here
<luser__> pretty close to the hotel too
<luser__> the lights just went out
<luser__> i think that's a sign from god
* luser__/#quakeed gone
-:- SignOff luser__: #quakeed (luser__)
<rude> zanzibar is a strip joint
<vito> hahaha -
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- Posted by vito
- Tuesday, August 28th, 2007
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- <uberartist> more than 2 cats = danger will robinson
<uberartist> how many normal people do you know with more than 2 cats?
<vito> none. And I think 2 cats is kinda pushing it.
<vito> I'm up to six, though.
<uberartist> I can see 2 from a companionship point of view. See once you have one it's easy to add a second.
<uberartist> but the justification from 2 to 3 is more illogical I think.
<uberartist> you honestly have 6 cats?
<vito> Well, after the first two, it's easy to get them in pairs.
<uberartist> is a woman to blame?
<vito> It was adopt 5, get the 6th one free, I couldn't really pass up a deal like that.
<uberartist> no really, how did you acquire these cats. -
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- Posted by vito
- Monday, August 6th, 2007
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- Tuesday, July 17th, 2007
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- <dirge> i think the major function of television
<dirge> is that it appeals to the part of man's brain that evolved for a million years sitting around campfires
<dirge> colored lights that are entertaining to watch while eating
<dirge> that is basically it
<Crow> hahaha dirge thats great, i love that.
<dirge> no joke. campfires are endlessly entertaining to watch
<dirge> people never use open fire anymore, but that's a historical aberration -
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- Posted by vito